#151 McDonald's, Cerebras, SpaceX, Rocket Lab, AST SpaceMobile, EchoStar, Iran, Öl

2026-06-23 Watch on YouTube ↗ Transcript

Summary

TickerCompanySpeakers (sentiment)EntryTargetCurrentΔ to targetNext earnings
$CBRSCerebras SystemsMax (bullish, long); Stefan (bearish)$205 (Max)$204.86N/A (recent IPO)
$SPCXSpaceXMax (bullish, long); Stefan (neutral)$135 (Stefan, IPO)$70–80 (Max, add-on trigger)$162.00N/A (recent IPO)
$RKLBRocket LabMax (bullish)$100.212026-08-06
$ASTSAST SpaceMobileMax (bullish)$85.132026-08-17
$SATSEchoStarMax (neutral); Stefan (bearish)$109 (Max)$101.492026-07-31
$MCDMcDonald’sStefan (bullish); Max (bullish, long)~$270 (Stefan, call option)$250 (Max, entry trigger)$279.702026-07-29

Theses (episode spine)

$CBRS (Cerebras Systems)

SpeakerSentimentTimeframeEntryTargetAt recordingNotes
MaxBullishLong-term$205.03 (first tranche, 15 shares)$224.43~$3,000/<0.5% of portfolio; will add if earnings confirm thesis
StefanBearish$224.43Portfolio already ~48% AMD; distrusts underwriter-conflicted $300 targets

Convergence / divergence: Both hosts see chip/AI-infrastructure exposure as already priced richly, but Max is willing to start a small position on the inference-demand thesis while Stefan declines outright, citing concentration risk in his own book rather than a view on Cerebras specifically.

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$SPCX (SpaceX)

SpeakerSentimentTimeframeEntryTargetAt recordingNotes
MaxBullishLong-term$70–80 (add-on trigger)$154Souvenir position, ~$3,000/0.5% of portfolio
StefanNeutral$135 (IPO, 55 shares at EUR116 each)$154Souvenir position, ~0.6% of portfolio; unbothered by a further 50% drop

Convergence / divergence: Both hosts frame their SpaceX stakes as small souvenir positions rather than conviction bets; Max is the more active of the two, hoping to add materially if the price falls back toward $70-80, while Stefan says he’d tolerate even a 50% drawdown without concern given the position’s immateriality.

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$RKLB (Rocket Lab)

SpeakerSentimentTimeframeEntryTargetAt recordingNotes
MaxBullish~$100 (down 26% from ~$150 high)Record $2.2B backlog; Nasdaq-100 inclusion pending

Convergence / divergence: Only Max discussed Rocket Lab specifically; Stefan’s remarks were limited to the broader space-sector rotation topic (see Topics section) rather than a distinct call on this name.

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$ASTS (AST SpaceMobile)

SpeakerSentimentTimeframeEntryTargetAt recordingNotes
MaxBullish$73.19 (down 31% in a month from ~$133 high)Sees it as attractive for first tranche or averaging down

Convergence / divergence: Only Max commented on AST SpaceMobile directly; Stefan did not give a specific view on this name.

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$SATS (EchoStar)

SpeakerSentimentTimeframeEntryTargetAt recordingNotes
MaxNeutral$109$106.40Holds at a loss; would prioritize RKLB/ASTS over adding here
StefanBearish$106.40Sold Jan/Feb call option, down ~60%; exiting

Convergence / divergence: Both hosts have grown more cautious on EchoStar, framing it as a SpaceX proxy the market refuses to value as such; Max still holds (underwater) but is deprioritizing it versus Rocket Lab/AST SpaceMobile, while Stefan has already sold his position at a loss.

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$MCD (McDonald’s)

SpeakerSentimentTimeframeEntryTargetAt recordingNotes
StefanBullishCall option bought 15 June (~EUR8,220 notional)$270 (52-week low)Would add another ~EUR8,000 if it drops 50-70% further
MaxBullishLong-term$250 (entry level he’s waiting for)$270Likes franchise/real-estate model; not a bargain yet at $270

Convergence / divergence: Both hosts are constructive on McDonald’s long-term, but via different routes — Stefan already bought a call option as a tactical Iran/oil-de-escalation trade, while Max prefers to wait for a lower entry (~$250) before committing new capital to the franchise-model thesis.

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Topics discussed

New Fed Chair Kevin Wash’s first press conference

Summary: The Fed held rates at 3.5-3.75% for a fourth straight meeting under new chair Kevin Wash, whose statement and press conference were shorter and less forthcoming than Jerome Powell’s, with no forward guidance. Wash announced new internal working groups on the Fed balance sheet, AI’s productivity effects on inflation, and data quality, while reaffirming price stability (2% inflation) as the primary mandate over labor market concerns. The dot plot showed 9 of 18 members expecting at least one more hike this year, and markets moved to price a possible hike as early as October.

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Potential impact: The hawkish dot plot and repriced hike expectations (October vs. December) drove equity markets lower into the press conference and pushed both short- and long-term Treasury yields higher.

Iran-US memorandum of understanding and its effect on oil

Summary: The US and Iran agreed a memorandum of understanding and held direct bilateral talks near Lausanne, Switzerland, which markets celebrated; Brent crude fell about 9.5% on the week to roughly $75-78/barrel, back near pre-war (late February) levels. Both hosts attribute the oil price relief to rerouted supply (Saudi trucking via Oman, alternate pipelines, record Venezuelan imports to the US, and reduced Chinese demand) rather than the Strait of Hormuz reopening fully.

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Potential impact: Both hosts tie falling oil prices to easing inflation and reduced pressure on the Fed and ECB to hike further, and Stefan separately links a falling oil price (plus a potential end to the Russia-Ukraine war and lifted Russia sanctions) to a McDonald’s stock recovery.

ECB’s Christine Lagarde on rates and inflation

Summary: ECB President Christine Lagarde said she sees no need for more aggressive monetary tightening despite the geopolitical conflict and energy price shock, calling the inflation increase transitory and not seeing signs of a wage-price spiral, while noting future decisions remain data-dependent.

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Space-sector rotation into the SpaceX IPO

Summary: Smaller space names (Rocket Lab, AST SpaceMobile, EchoStar) sold off in the weeks around and after the SpaceX IPO as investors rotated capital into SpaceX shares; SpaceX itself has since fallen (down 16.43% on the discussed day, ~7% the prior Friday) alongside a new bond issuance and an acquisition.

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Potential impact: Both hosts note the rotation shows how new, large IPOs (like SpaceX) can drain liquidity from adjacent smaller sector names, and Stefan flags Nasdaq-100 inclusion for Rocket Lab as a technical demand catalyst via ETF buying.

Russia-Ukraine war potentially nearing an end

Summary: Stefan argues Russia is close to losing its “special operation” after four and a half years, citing daily attacks on Moscow and Ukraine’s development of long-range weapons that Western allies previously withheld out of fear of escalation, and suggests Russian elites no longer feel safe in Moscow.

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Potential impact: Stefan ties a potential end to the war and lifted Russia sanctions to lower European energy prices, which he expects would help energy-sensitive consumer names like McDonald’s.